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Ari Herstand is a Los Angeles based musician, the founder and CEO of Ari’s Take and the author of How to Make It in the New Music Business.
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Nonstop Management founder and principal Jaime Zeluck Hindlin has signed, shepherded, and spearheaded the success of numerous GRAMMY® Award-winning multi-platinum songwriters and producers. In 2018, the roster ignited smashes such as Meghan Trainor’s “No Excuses” and “Let You Be Right,” XXXTentacion’s “Numb,” Jason Mraz’s “Have It All,” Young The Giant’s “Simplify,” and more as well as singles for Alesso, Bebe Rexha, Jack & Jack, Zara Larsson, and BTS.

3:00 Welcome
4:42 What does a music publisher do?
7:22 Pairing writers together and the purpose of writing sessions
14:35 The process of writing songs from movie briefs
15:28 To credit or not to credit
18:43 The Pact
22:33 Why you should negotiate the splits when the song is actually done
25:35 What it means to be a manager for songwriters and producers
26:58 From songs to the radio
29:19 Radio hits versus a big album cut
31:44 Songwriters asking for points on the master
34:17 The importance of your personality
39:15 The process of getting admin and co-publishing deals
43:06 Advice for aspiring songwriters
45:05 Does it matter where songwriters reside?
47:02 The downside of Zoom sessions
49:19 The stage of your pitched music and networking on social media
51:50 Final question

Edited and mixed by Maxton Hunter
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take

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Ari Herstand is a Los Angeles based musician, the founder and CEO of Ari’s Take and the author of How to Make It in the New Music Business.

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